Range for 8m rise

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Whats the range for 07 rise 8m, i’m 90 kg? i’m planning to get one. Havent got tested this kite but whats your feelings for this kite? I allready have thruster 12m and this 8m kite might work great for me as high wind kite.

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Just for you to compare,

I am 17 kg lighter than you, 5 years of experience.

Last year I flew my 07 8m Rise a few times over 35 knots. So I guess with your 90 kg this should not be a problem at all. Please take note that you carefully discover your personal high-end. Any windrange is highly subjective considering that so many variables come into play.

Awesome kite and I found the 8m to be the best size for the 07 rises! Fast, nice for kiteloops and jumping high but still kinda foregiving if you mess up.

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07 Rise

I am interested in what any of you think about the 07 Rise. I have the opportunity to buy an 8M and 12M Rise from 2007 with bars for a very good price.

Question 1: Is it correct that all 07 Rise kites did not have the 08 Bridle mod? In this case, would buying the 08 bridle mod kit for both kites be a very good idea?

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Re: 07 Rise

[quote author=“Kirk”]Question 1: Is it correct that all 07 Rise kites did not have the 08 Bridle mod? In this case, would buying the 08 bridle mod kit for both kites be a very good idea?

Certainly my 2007 Rise didn’t have the ‘08 bridle mod as standard, but the mod was supplied with the kite.  Whether that was what OR shipped, or what my local dealer provided, I don’t know.

As for fitting it being a good idea, I guess that’s a personal preference. If the kite comes with the mod supplied, you can try it with and without, to see which you prefer.

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I have the 12M 2007 Rise and for me the bridle mod made all the difference, I would highly recommend getting it and then if nothing else you can compare it for yourself.

IMO, the mod took away a lot of the bar pressure and also I felt the kite was somewhat “stally” and unstable on the original bridle (probably why OR introduced the mod and carried it forward on their 2008 models).

It’s simple to do and you can go “back and forth” easily if that’s what you want to do..


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I have a 10m and 16m Rise 2007 I would get rid of them if it was not for the PBK or the 2008 bridal Mod, I find that 2008 Bridal Mod works better then the PBK, turns a little quicker and much more range.  Kite more stable, and the bar presure is super with the mod.

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Go ahead and do the mod. The bar pressure is zero on the front line forward setting making the feel almost too light. In my opinion using the rear setting on the front lines is just right.

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thanks everyone for the great advice.

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Whats the low end for this kite?

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Low-end for this kite is really INSANE! 16 knots for me (of course I am lighter than you). I am talking going upwind easily and fun when throwing loops. I am sure many had in in lighter winds but I personal don’t care to kite when upwind is getting a struggle.


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So i decided to go on 8m and 12m (i made good deal of them both so i decided to sell thruster). Shipped yesterday and propably here early in next week.

2008 bridle’s is ordered too to both kites. Just waiting now and hopefully i’m able to test both kites next week.

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Page 6 of the manual seems about right for wind ranges ...  http://www.oceanrodeo.com/kiting/pdf/SLE_kite_manual.pdf

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Just got testing 8m rise and have to say i like it. even it doesnt have bridle mod on (it’s on the way to me). Hopefully on sunday i can test 12m too.

It’s winter here and we are snowkiting in lakes. Wind was 16-22 knots and i was using 8m rise. Nice pop (really easy, even i weight 194 lbs) and nice hangtime. And the kite was so fast. Bar pressure is bit hard though, but i have to put the mod in it when it comes. Not so easy relaunch as eclipse has but i didnt have any problems with it. Bar and stopperball in depowerline is great (this is much better than RRD system).
Just loving these kites. 8m kite seems to be very powerful and superfast.

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Setting #2 on page #14 on the manual has very little bar pressure . (After the ‘direct steering’ mod.)

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Ben, you’re on the 07 Rise with out the mod correct? If so, yes be sure to slap that mod on as soon as you can, you’ll love the difference it makes, it is just awesome with the mod.

To start, (with the mod on) I would suggest you put the front attachments on the farthest forward setting and the back attachment on the farthest back attachment. This set-up is the “expert” setup but it leads to the most de-power and fastest turning. With the back attachments farther back the kite is a bit prone to stalling though so be sure to set your trim settings properly or even use the 2nd knot up on the front lines to tighten them up a bit.

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Thanks for advice. i will put mods on asap. How is flying lines setup? to be equal or steering lines to be little shorter?

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of course this is personal preference but standard = equal lengths.


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Yesterday i got tested 12m and 8m with new bridle mods. Now bar pressure is great and kite is more direct to bar movements. Like this very much.
8 m is superfast now, i think it might even be little too fast for my taste. I have to fly it more to get used to it.

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You can set the bridal to slow things down place both attachment on the inside setting.

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Ok - this thread is officialy off track.
Can someone please answer the original question?

90kg rider (200lbs)
8m Rise (with Venturi and new Bridal) - I’m guessing the 08 model.
What is the wind range?

Yes - rider skill, water conditions, board all have an impact - but no one is going to sue anyone if people simply provide their own experience.
Be sure to state your weight, board size and preferred style (aggressive, cruiser, wake style, big air etc).
Although input is appreciated, if you weigh less than 175lbs - your kite experience is totally different (from a power perspective) to a 200lb rider.

I’m looking for a kite to cover me in the 20-30kt range.
I’m 200lbs and have 3 different boards (small med large).  Obviously, in this wind range, I want to be on a small board, and chances are there will be chop and waves.

I currently ride a Cabrinha Xbow 2 12M in wind from 12-25kts (I need my 3 boards to work cover this range) - but am looking for a tougher kite (have had it repaired 4 times in the last 12 months so far) that will cover me in the upper wind range. 
Due to money issues - I’m going to keep the Xbow for another season but am looking at a 8 or 10M rise for the upper end - and hopefully a larger Rise to replace the xbow when it dies for good….which could be sooner than later.

Any advice would be much appreciated.


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Tukyank - Welcome to the Crew! Stoked you are looking at a Rise. Hopefully I can be of some help.

At 200lbs and in 20 to 30 knots of wind you will be loving life with the 8m. If it lulls down to 17/18 knots you will still be able to ride through and if it kicks up to 35, with your weight and the kite’s available de-power, you will more than easily be able to make it to the beach safely or just ride through with your heels dug in.

A really nice feature of the 08 rise is the new Venturi technology. Not only do the vents help prevent back stalling they really seem to help in the loft department too. So, even though the kite is an 8m and you weigh 200lbs you can expect to come down soft if you keep the kite overhead on your jumps.

I’ll let other riders chime in here too but I would say the 8m would be an excellent addition to your 12m XBow, we’ll get you to sell that kite next season and grab another Rise!

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Thanks John.
How would the 10M rise compare to the 8M in the 20-30kt wind range.
The reason I ask is that I get way more days in the low 20’s than I do in the high 20’s.


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tukyank

I’m lighter than you at 64 kilos (around 142lbs) and I’ve just bought the 10m Rise ‘Venturi’ It’s a brilliant kite for my weight and combined with the Ocean Rodeo Zen 129x39 ‘Freestyle’ board got me going nicely powered in around 14 knots the other day. Amazingly it might have been less than that. Others were not doing much on 12m kites! (I was on full throttle.)

I’ve had the same kite out in 20-25knots with just a litle de-power.

With your 3 boards you should have all eventualities covered with the 10m especially in the wind range you talk about.

I have the 12m ‘07 Rise and use the 7m One for stronger winds. Judging by the perfomance I have experienced with the 10m my 12 may become redundant!

You should seriously consider the 2008 Rise ‘Venturi’ 10m smile

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I’m 250lbs and had the 2007 10m rise with the 2008 bridal mod out in powder snow on Sunday it was blowing 25knt to 35knt I only ever pulled the depower 3” at the most, amazin range, the wind dipped to 15 knts and still pulled me at my size I’m interested in finding out the upper limit of the 10m rise i bet it wiil be great super fast i think the 10 would be a good option also as more low end at the lower wind

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tukyank,

I would say go for the 10m - based on your weight and conditions it is the perfect size for you.  I love my 10 in 20-30 knts - I pretty much ride it these conditions though I have taken it as low as 14 or 15 knots and had no problems staying up wind. 

I weigh pretty much the same 195 lbs/88kg and find the 10 is a great kite for 20 - 30 knts.  I finally did get too overpowered on it the other day when I went out in 35+....switched to my buddies 8m Rise and was fine - but that has only happened once.  No doubt the 8 will get you going - and if you were a little lighter might be the call but I think you’ll love little bit of extra power in the 10.


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Yeah, I’d agree. If you are typically on the lower end of the 20-30 scale then the 10 is a great call. If it is kicking 25-35 more often the 8 would be better.

You’re lucky! The 10m (in my humble opinion) is the nicest of the entire range this year…which says a lot because they are all beautiful, but for some reason that 10 is a lot like the 2003 9m Bronco, a special kite.

JZ