2009 DIABLO Review

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Diablo 2009

Hi guys, I know you have been waiting a lot to know more about the new 2009 diablo, here it is ....
For this new kite we really improved the performances of last year kite .

The kite a a real C kite with everything you want it to do for all wakestyle riders or anyone missing a true C kite.

Why C kite ?
C kite are made for riders who need to do all wakestyle tricks, unhooked or anything new school. The kite react better and allow to get a slack in the line while poping to pass the bar.

We kept all the good from the 2008 diablo and added some great things to make it your freestyle weapon.

The kite fly best with the 5th line. we are working on a small bridle mod on the kite to ride it 4 lines with the peformances of the 5th line setting.

The Leading edge and struts diameter have been reduced, the construction is still bombproof and the new graphic design we are working on are very nice and freestyle oriented.

The kite has less bar pressure than last years kite and it feels good, the bar pressure is just perfect to feel where exactly your kite is without having tenis elbow or getting tired.

The turning of the kite have been improved, the smaller diameter and new profile allow a better penetration in the air, the kite react very fast and turns very good.
The good thing is that the kite climbs very fast after looping it . It doesn’t turn on itself but generate a big arc and very fast while looping ... all kiteloop adept will love it.

While kiting and moving the kite you feel a very different sensation due to the lower bar pressure and the fast turning, the kite turns very smoothly and feel great to fly

The lift is better than last year ( which was already good), you will go high and stay long in the air while jumping.
For unhooking and handle passes, the kite react perfectly, it stays very stable.
After a pop jump you will get the great slack in the line to be able to pass the bar easily.

The relaunching is good.

The kite benefit of a very good depower,  compare to last year diablo you will be able to handle the kite in much more wind than you were use to.
The kite is a little less powerfull than last year which was already very power ( to much for some people) than average so it shouldn’t be a problem.

Most of the C kite adept out there will like the new diablo C kite.
The 10m sample is available for anyone that want to test it .

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jeremie


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Thanks Jermie, what is the bottom end on it like this year especially compared to last years which had really high top end but a pretty poor low end.  Thanks.


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less bar pressure grin witch design will you use the cad or the sample.


The 10m sample is available for anyone that want to test it: hell ya send it over here.
i think the Diablo will do great this year.
Thanks for the review Jer.

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any pics of the look of the kite?? when is going to be available? i am looking forward to try it, i need to see what is all the fuzz about smile

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Can you comment on the low end of the diablo this year compared to last?  Thanks.


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hey
the low end is a little less than last year .
But we got more depower so at the end the windrange is much bigger than last year kite .
Loosing a little low end compared to last year kite ( which was already very power) allowed us to get a much better kite !
Amazing kite


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updates where is it at? pics ?release date? come on
getting the shakes here grrr


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I’m guessing its going to be sometime in early 09 for the 09 diablo to drop.  Would love to hear how the development is going, but that stuff is usually pretty hush.  The mention of a bridle had me wondering, but if you can get easy relaunch and get rid of the 5th it could be worth it.  Hope its just a simple thing with no pulley.  Any word on that??  I think North have a bit of a bridle for the new vegas.

Just speculating on whats been posted.


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Brent4336 - 20 November 2008 02:30 PM

I’m guessing its going to be sometime in early 09 for the 09 diablo to drop.  Would love to hear how the development is going, but that stuff is usually pretty hush.  The mention of a bridle had me wondering, but if you can get easy relaunch and get rid of the 5th it could be worth it.  Hope its just a simple thing with no pulley.  Any word on that??  I think North have a bit of a bridle for the new vegas.

Just speculating on whats been posted.

Agreed. I’m not overly huge on bridles. I dont mind the 5th line though - once it’s in the air that is. I could live with very small bridle provided there’s no pulley. Needs to be really short too so there’s absolutely no risk of tangles, wrapping or whatever.

Looking forward to this one.

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Thanks for the review!
Could you compare the range to the Rise? I have a 10, and the question is what size should I get from the Diablo to get the same low end, or to get a little better low end.
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The range question is a good one and I hope we get some guidance before they ship.  Its tough these days with so many kites out there.  How are you to know when the 10m rise pull like many 12m kites and some older 14m kites.  With the new Diablo being a complete re-design its tough to make the call on your quiver, and it would suck to have em for a couple months and realize you made the wrong call.  I’m hoping to demo one, preferably the 12m to get an idea of where both the 14 and 10 fit, but whatever size I get a go at ,I’ll do my best to put it in context with the rise.  Jeremie would no doubt have the best input there.

I’m kinda figuring on a 14/10 quiver and will rely on my 8m sle for the gnarliest of gnarlys!  Pretty sure I want a 10m.  That’s development model and 10m kites seem to have the biggest range these days.  We don’t have the “nitinat” conditions where an 8/6m would get much use.  For me its more about the other end.  My hopes are high the 14m is both powerful and fun.  Too many days spent just riding back and forth on my 12m sle this past summer.  Those kites jump with big kite input way before you can load the lines with the board.  I’m looking for some of what I used to have in my kites where popping no whip 10 footers was more fun than I find it on SLEs.  Took me a couple years to get over the marvel of depower to get back to that!


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The range is different for any people and riding style, this is why It is dificult to know what people have to choose.
A rider doing handle pass tricks only during his sessions will start to be overpowered on a 10m by 20 knots.
But if you stay hooked in , you can handle a 10m in 30 knots.

Then the weight also is part of the equation.

Jeremie


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Thats right, but how you compare it to the Rise in the same size? Does it have the same lowend, or range?
Thanks


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Rise is an SLE kite
A C kite doesn’t have the same range.
The low end of the RIse is better than the diablo
The depower of the rise is better.

The new diablo has a better depower than last year diablo.

The depower isn’t the same, on an SLE you can depower the kite a lot and loose almost all the power but it won’t be fun to kite anymore because your backline are very loose and the steering isn’t the same anymore.
The depower on the C kite might be less but depowered at the maximum the kite still perform good so let’s say you can get almost the same depower than the rise for the riding but without the safety power kill that the Rise or any SLE has

LEt’s say that the to have the same low end of a 10 Rise u ride a 12 diablo.

The diablo is a great kite, the new lift is very nice and will also satisfy most of oldschool riders that wana go high.
But this kite is designed for freestyle and unhooking, so if you are not planing on unhooking riders must stick to the Rise, they will have more fun.

The diablo is also for people who are missing this C kite feeling.

Jeremie


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Thanks a lot, this is exactly what I wanted to know! Sounds like an exciting kite, I should try one soon. Heading towards the unhooked stuff, sooner or later will be there…. smile


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no probs !!!!
hope u gonna get a chance to try it soon enough.
Jeremie


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I thought the 09 Diablo had less bar pressure compared to 08? How significant is this, Or did they ship the “wrong” sample version to Holland? (I know there were 2 versions of final samples made for testing.)


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jeremie tronet - 22 November 2008 12:26 PM


The diablo is a great kite, the new lift is very nice and will also satisfy most of oldschool riders that wana go high.
But this kite is designed for freestyle and unhooking, so if you are not planing on unhooking riders must stick to the Rise, they will have more fun.

The diablo is also for people who are missing this C kite feeling.

Jeremie

that’s it!! You’ve done it to me again.

have to save my pennies again.

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What are the final graphics?

Is there still work being done on a small bridle or will its be a straight and simple 5th?


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Good question Brent! We definately need the black/white/gold version. I heard that Jeremie and Ross are working on a very simple/small bridle that allows the diablo to be flown as a 4 line kite but retaining the overall good characteristics of a typical C. Would be brilliant if it works out as I prefer 4 line simplicity and the target group should know how to restart a kite the oldschool way.


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the bar pressure is for sure less than 2008.
You feel it right away.
Bar pressure, lift and depower are the main things that changed in good compared to the 2008 diablo
Jeremie


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What are the final graphics?

Is there still work being done on a small bridle or will its be a straight and simple 5th?


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Bump!

Graphics?

Timeline?

Bridle?

Cheers


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Hola Jeremy,

glad to hear about the Diablo, according to what you say earlier, it seem that is going to be “the kite” that i am looking for. I have a 10m Rise 2009 and a 12m Rise 2008, what size do you recommend me for a diablo? I lived at the “Rock” so is windy as hell but there are somedays too with light wind conditions as well.

how are the graphics? i cant wait to see how is going to look.
thanks

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Brent4336 - 14 December 2008 07:26 PM

Bump!

Graphics?

Timeline?

Bridle?

Cheers

Sorry for the delay….

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Yeah baby!

I’m stoked with that result.  Even if those are the only two options, you’ll get no further complaint from me.

Timeline?

I’ll take a 14/10 please.


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Oooh bit of a Ford thingy going on there

“you can have any colour so long as it’s black”

test flight / demo please

(can we wait for the poxy northerly winds here in the UK to pass first - I’ll be patient…. Honest)

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I cant wait for giving the Diablo a try, but i have to admit that i was waiting for something else in the design, anyway i am very pleased with the 2009 Rise, so if the Diablo perform as they say thats good enough.

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I hope you dont take too much crap for the design.

After all, there was a poll on here once asking for a black kite!

I think you did the right thing with the graphics by deleting some of the details from the rise.  Looks way better simplified.  The insignia cloth on the tips and hopefully vent is sharp when seen up close.

Color is an easy addition as per the gold example.  I think this kite will look great.

Looking forward to cheking out all its aspects.

Hopefully this winter.

P.S.  How are people finding the new orange release when unhooking?  Does it obstruct holding the bar in the middle?


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I started that poll and I stand by it, the Diablos look sweeter than any kite OR have ever made!!!

That will be the best kite on the market!

Go boys, get the new bar sorted and get me one sent in the new year!

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Brent4336 - 16 December 2008 01:44 PM

I hope you dont take too much crap for the design.

After all, there was a poll on here once asking for a black kite!

yes I remember the thread along with Ben and Harry’s excitement / enthusiasm.

I’ve got no huge beef with the colour scheme. The graphics I do love though.

I dont think those pictures will actually do it justice. Photos perhaps when they’re available. I’ve got that feeling that these beasties will look stunning in the flesh.

I will be very interested how they perfrom though.  raspberry

Good stuff again OR cool smile

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