Fast and clean kite folding NOW WITH VIDEO

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I saw Richard do something like this once, I’ve been trying to perfect it since.

> open strut valves
> pick up kite, tips up
> pull deflate valve
> wait a second
> with the LE semi-inflated, start folding
> after step two (tips on center strut), put down kite
> keep the LE down

It takes a bit op practice but it gets you off the beach in no time > more net riding time for you!
Also, you’re not rolling sand into the inside canopy. You only get 1/8 of the amount of sand in the bag compared to standard kooky rolling the tips in.


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Nice drawings, I get the idea but nothing works better than a instruction vid… rolleyes

Get a nice lady as folding assistent

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very nice drawing I would say. I will try it next time.

Alot of detail on the drawing means only one thing to me; NO WIND EITHER!

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Kirk - 01 July 2009 06:32 PM

very nice drawing I would say. I will try it next time.

Alot of detail on the drawing means only one thing to me; NO WIND EITHER!

Kirk

Thanks Kirk, only 10 minutes in Illustrator, I had the kite shape from another file. Been doing graphics for too long!
BTW there was some wind but 3kn of current at the beach today, couldn’t keep any ground.


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i wonder if that drawing is the new secret kite layout that OR is putting out in 2010?

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mossman - 03 July 2009 02:28 AM

i wonder if that drawing is the new secret kite layout that OR is putting out in 2010?

Nah. That drawing looks like a standard bow or SLE. I am sure that OR is working on a delta kite by now wink

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i can see what your doing there but a vid would be really nice!

fold 2/3 across itself? then other tip back across in half. then half again from that side. then roll/fold! is this with or without lines connected?
My fave UK spot is on a beach with a grass field behind so dont have any sand. My other fave spot is in france with very little beach space….so you have all the wind hitting you blowing the kite about everywhere so have to be a kook otherwise you end up with the kite blowing everywhere! Which way would i want to face into the wind (bearing in mind the span from centre to tip is much bigger than my height!)

I’ll try this when im next out (which will be UK, but might also be landboading)


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Stug, I need to teach a model how to fold the kite like this, so I have my hands free to film. Female nude would be preferred.
The first fold is around the center of the model kite, so in 1/2, then 1/4. Of course, without the lines connected. You’re right about the wind, keep the side with the LE towards the wind and keep pressing it down. Wind trying to mess it up will only be above 18 kn, when this happens your kite is likely a 10m or smaller, so it’s gonna be easier. Once you got this down, the required space is much less than the kooky laying out flat.


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lanboarded today, no wind (as well as barefoot waterski on grass behind a car, along with the obligatory wakeboard mountainboarding tandem!)
i did it in 2/3 then folded it as you said. there was no wind so i didnt have an issue. i normally fly my 12 in 22….on water….im sure with a helper i could get away with it! it went in the bag easily! when you do the last folding over and over itself, thats when you get the air out…so this is the bit to take time with! Once you have it just before this step then its absolutely fine. it wont blow anywhere then, and it will already be okay if you do the 1st two folds holding the kite stood up. then you can place on the ground to squash the air out. Also note i did it with lines still attached! the bar ended up outside the package and used a clip tie strap (ozone send these with every kite) i obtained to hold it to the long edge (i have enough lines left-i wind until i get to the 3m extensions) so that its still possible to clean the bar and lines….just bagging would obviously mean putting the wet bar on the kite. but i can have the bar outside the bag still! Detaching or not, it works!

i tried it on my mates 16m bularoo….and it just about worked, even with the struts!

and i get the model joke smile would you like me to film next time? i forgot my camera today so missed out on all the footage we could have got!!


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the time to beat is 25 seconds!


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lol! thats about how quick i get to the 2nd step….....only thing is i have a massive 12 to fold (only ks kite-but its an OR grin )


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thx! Do you think it would look better if I had a Mullet?
I have the 12 also, it’s more difficult for sure but it can be done.


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I thought it was supposed to be a pleasurable experience?

You know, crack a beer, open valve, take a chair… gulp, fold, sit, gulp… repeat. wink

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@ nicegrab: I edited those bits out.

In fact you can see I’m broken after a 3,5 hour session, I could hardly walk. Plus I was wearing 2 neoprene shirts, they had ridden up above the harness. Damn I’m charming.


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Awesome video, thanks!!!

Might be quite a bit harder to do with my 16m though.

Still, thanks for the video.  Maybe I could modify the procedure some for the 16m.

Allen


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Wow!!! El Rudo!!!  For some reason all of this time I thought that you were barely 20 something years old!!!

If you don’t mind me asking, how old are you???
(I’m 51 years old.)

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This is the best thing I have gotten out of the internet in a long time—I think you have just added about ten hours of riding time to my season.  Thanks!


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thanks Mattyjs4 (is your name derived from Dutch Matthijs?), I hope you’re not loosing 20 hours practising this then! Life is too short for these break-even analysis anyway.
@ Alan, I’m around 40ish (this covers a nice range from 35 to 55)


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No—it is Matt.  Ten hours of time saved by folding up kites on a sandy beach in 30 seconds vs. 5 minutes.  Ten hours might be a stretch, but after 2 hours of riding hard, the last thing you want to do is wipe sand off your kite while you roll it on a sandy beach in the wind….time for beer


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hopefully riding this weekend so will be folding it nice and quick again!


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I tried this at the weekend and it seemed to work OK.  Certainly it was a lot faster than normal.  I just need to practice a little more.  Certainly with a 12m, it needed extra folds to get it small enough for the bag.

Funnily enough, a friend had a similar technique, which was slower but also faster than a normal roll up system.  His also seemed to get all the air out nice and quickly too.  I’ll try and get it on video.

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Thats so cool! I have got to try that!

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doesnt work on a 2006 9m waroo LOL. mainly cos it doesnt have one pump!


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So I finally can see the vid.. a bit disappointed.. didn’t I ask for a nice female model?.. wink
I tried it once.. no succes.. thought I got to do it all of the ground… now I get it, will try it saterday with the 6m (yes it looks like nuking winds get to La Tonnara (Corse) this weekend)
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Arjan

also around 40 .. .


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Folding technique works fine only with a six you must not wait a second, open valve and start folding.


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OK, that was the fastest folding I have seen!! very nice to share it with the rest of us.

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I just got it working on a 14m and 12m Rise and both went in perfect. Use the stiffness of the LE and struts for controlled folding.


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It will save me around 5min per kite more less.

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i just got a gaastra jekyll 8m for a nice price (couldnt get me a rise within my budget) and it has a deflate valve at the edge of the leading edge. it works quite well. i have modified the folding technique for this kite too!


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the 2005 North Rhino used to have one of those deflate valve at the end too, didnt work to much for me by then.

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Hi,
I have Rise 8 and 12 from 2008. Until this thread I beleived the bag deliverd with the 12 was too smal. I was not able to roll the kite small enough. But now, using this method the bag is perfect. Thank you alot!
Greetings,
Jaros


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Indeed when using the FCKF-technique (Fast Clean Kite Folding) the bag is too big… grin

It is a realy good folding technique, I use it now every time. 6, 10 and 14m no problemo.
But I don’t wait a sec, I open the valve and fold right away.
You almost hear fellow kiters think out loud.. :“Damn, what’s he doing?, thats fast!”

Rudo you should patent this ... wink

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Arjan


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Come and demonstrate this technique on Terschelling sometime soon! Not that I don’t get it, but it would be nice to meet El Rudo in real life! Take Wouter and Barry with you and any other OR rider you can find. We should do an OR NL meet soon….!