SOUL…....put it to use!!?!

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Okay, so it took me about 1.5 minutes to decide I like the idea of the new SOUL drysuit.

I can even see myself using it skiing/snowboarding/snowmachining or winter snow-kiting on sloppy days. I’m coastal here, and we get great snow followed by rain on some storm-cycles. HHHMMMMM??!

Anyone have a thought on this product??

Please, can we wait til some of you have actually touched Ocean Rodeo’s newest drysuit, the SOUL!?! before we compare it to NPX’s offering? It would be so obvious to do so, but let’s wait until we’ve tested it!

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How does it zip up? Can’t tell from the pictures. We need more picture of entry and neck seal. Looks great from what I can see! Love the pee zip, it’s about time!!


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Hi Pete!!

As you can see in the product gallery the suit zip is around the shoulders, from breast to breast. This is new patented technology from Ocean Rodeo called Captive Zip Technology. Once the jacket is zipped up (with a non dry zipper) the zip is full hidden.

Note, in the image below the zipper is open and the neck seal is pulled off and hanging down in front of the suit.

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Hi John,
Very interesting! So you pull the zipper car from one breast up and around your shoulders behind your neck and then down to the other breast? Is it very difficult to pull it behind your neck? I assume you have a long pull cord on it, I don’t have very good flexibility reaching behind my neck. How is the comfort compared to the Pyro Pro? I WOULD LOVE TO TRY ONE ON!


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same set up as the surf dry.  If you can scratch the back of your own neck, you can pull this zipper.


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Pete - 24 January 2012 07:03 AM

Love the pee zip, it’s about time!!

I agree, but why are pee zips horizontal? Why are they not vertical like every other pair of pants?


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J-Man - 03 February 2012 01:35 PM
Pete - 24 January 2012 07:03 AM

Love the pee zip, it’s about time!!

I agree, but why are pee zips horizontal? Why are they not vertical like every other pair of pants?

Deliberate incongruence. To make sure the ladies don’t buy it.


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I got to check out the Soul yesterday! Very nice design, feels softer and more pliable than the Pyro. The flat zippers are a huge improvement. I tried on the extra large and had a tough time getting my arms into the opening. John says there’s a XLK ( king) available in the fall. It’s zipper will be 2 inches longer, that’s about what I needed to comfortly get into the suit.  Otherwise the suit fit well. It is more like wearing ordinary clothes in comfort, very free moving. The hood is nice and fits over a Helmut. And of course I had to try out the pee zip, no issues there, another flat non- metal zipper. The suit has a nice, easy to use upper pocket for your keys, nice feature when trying to get your key out in cold weather. I think they have a winner, my only suggestion would be to put the longer zipper on the large and extra large suits. I don’t know if the XLK is going to be too big for me and I would get the XL if it had the longer zipper. Good job guys!


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Thanks Pete!

As Pete mentions, the suits ship with a flat style TiZip zipper and in most suit sizes it is a 34” zipper. On the MK, LK and XLK as well as on the 2XL and 3XL models we upped the zip length to 36” to help get the shoulders through the opening. For those of you who find the 34” zip a bit tough to get past the shoulders there is a small trick which is to tuck your 2nd arm behind your back as you pop the zipper over that side’s shoulder. I’ll post a video here shortly to show you what I mean.

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Got my Soul today and it looks even better than the pictures.  I’m so stoked to hit the water with this bad boy!

-wade.


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Got my Soul in Hatteras.  The winter wetsuit is dead long live the drysuit.


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horizontal pee zips?


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mohitosan90 - 28 May 2012 04:00 AM

horizontal pee zips?

Yes, the pee zip is horizontal.  Don’t be fooled though, it works great.

-Wade.


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I might be retiring my OR Pyro Pro from 2006 in the near future. It is a Large Tall (LT). The suit fits me perfect. Do you know what the equivalent size is in the Soul?

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Hey Kirk…I would put you in an XL. We have all three colours in stock.


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Very nice design but you know why I won’t buy it? Like the Pyro, you make them in dark colors only. Colors that can’t be seen on the water should someone need air rescue. Why the hell 99% of kiteboarding equipment is black (wet and dry suits, impact vest, PFD’s)? It makes absolutely no sense. Kayaking dry suits are almost all yellow and red. That stuff should be red, orange and yellow, not gray, dark blue and black. So for me, although not as well designed as the Soul (but better fabric with Gore-Tex), my first choice remains the Kokatat GFER because it comes in yellow, otherwise i would have liked the Soul.


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Geotrouvetout,…
Great comments on dry-suits, much appreciated.
I agree, bright colors do add safety; however it’s a tough sell as 99% of customers ask for black, blue etc. We are working brighter colors for next year,…but not necessarily yellow for a safety color..

The problem with Yellow:
In high wind conditions, with sun and white caps, yellow blends into the ocean. This problem gets worse the brighter yellow – neon yellow being the absolute worst. Red/orange is the best,...the dominant color used in survival suits, life rafts ect,..so if you your concerned about being seen,..get a red or orange drysuit.

For safety on the Soul we’ve added 3m reflective piping strips that wrap around the neck and down the front. Very effective in dark conditions, especially when hit with artificial light.

Regarding breathable materials, Gortex is a solid brand and have made a great name in breathable materials – heck they invented it! 
However, for use in salt water, the field is not dominated by Gore. The Teflon technology that Gore made their name on (in jackets, pants etc,) is not necessarily the best material to be used in drysuit’s,..ie   exposure to salt water.
At Ocean Rodeo we use Gelelnots membrane – it’s a PU based film that works on a heat differential process rather (think wicking) rather than small cracks or openings expanding/contracting in a Teflon film to let vapor out. Having said this, Gore do offer various membranes and may have some form of PU membrane in their line up to meet the challenge of salt water.


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Good response to my comment. Another thing I forgot to mention, how good are you with repairs? A fellow kiter was impressed with Kokatat customer service when he needed to replace a gasket and the zipper. The price was very reasonable ($80) and as they damaged his suit while repairing it they gave him a brand new one instead. I’ve seen folks with duck taped Pyropro suits, maybe they are just lazy to get them repaired or would it be for another reason?


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Wanted to identify other uses for the SOUL.. I’d really like to have one for days on the sailboat when its windy and a downpour with waves crashing over.. or for fishing / crabbing when its pissing out.. I would even use the SOUL for scuba diving to clean the bottom of a boat or just shallow reef diving… but after 10-20 feet pressures would likely compress the suit… after market valves?
The comment of snowboarding in the suit would fit well on Vancouver Island when Mt Washington gets very wet snow!
If I had to work outside on a regular basis a drysuit would do well to limit exposure to the elements… construction sites etc…

any decent sailing gear is at least 400 for a pair of pants and jackets are easily another 400.. get the multi-purpose SOUL DRYSUIT!!!

Please randomly select my name in the draw!!! WINNING


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Got my new Soul and tried it out today. Wow! Very comfortable and the larger opening on the king is just enough to make getting in it a breeze. You guys definitely have a winner here, felt like I was kiting in street clothes, except I was nice and warm! Hood worked great over my helmet. I even got to use the pee zip, horizontal works just fine! Great job


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The Soul looks like it has some pretty cool ideas in drysuits. I’ve never heard of Ocean Rodeo before today when I got an offer of a deal on the Soul via a paddling instructors list. I love the ‘captive zipper’ idea. The look is cool and avoids that bagged stormtrooper look.
Like a previous poster, I too wonder about the lack of bright colours. I like my red suit. However, the big thing I don’t understand and may stop me from buying a Soul is: where are the feet?
No one even tries to sell drysuits without feet in the paddling world anymore. Do kiteboarders not like their feet? I find the nylon socks built into paddling drysuits fit well into my booties and I stay a lot warmer for having dry feet. I even wear wool socks in my suit. Very nice. While the Soul looks fantastic overall, I’m not eager to go back to cold feet in wet booties.


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I kite all winter in the Gorge and use OR 5mm booties and my feet are toasty! Plus in above 55 degree water it’s nice not to wear booties. Options are a good thing!


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Hi kapn,
If you read through our forum posts about the Soul, you’ll find that many Soul owners comment on the comfort, and that it’s nice to not always have soft socks - surf SUPers for example really appreciate the option of going barefoot for better board control.
We’ve been telling a lot of die hard soft sock folks to check out the xcel Drylock booties - here’s a great review for you: http://www.surfline.com/gear/gear-review-xcel-infiniti-drylock-boots—field-testing-xcels-top-of-the-line-surf-booties_40969/

We’ve found that soft socks are usually the first part of a drysuit to wear out, leading to a very costly repair, or replacement of the suit.

I hope you consider trying out a Soul drysuit before you make up your mind about it!
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How does the Soul work with a life or impact vest. Looks a bit bulky up top. Do you need a larger vest? Here in Toronto cops love to give tickets for not wearing a life vest.


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pecmajor - 31 December 2012 05:29 AM

How does the Soul work with a life or impact vest. Looks a bit bulky up top. Do you need a larger vest? Here in Toronto cops love to give tickets for not wearing a life vest.

Yeah I took mine into the surf a couple of weeks ago and let me tell you, since it`s sealed, when you fall in the water all the air trapped inside acts like a flotation device on itself, literally.
Besides marine regulations estipulate that when you are in a vessel away from the swimming zone, there must be a live vest present in the craft. Been SUP here in Montreal for a couple of years already and encountered the same situation several times but as long as the flotation device is with me (not on me) I`m complying.
The suit is amzing, loos like a snowboard suit. I don`t know how would it be affected if I ever decide to put it for snowkiting but the temptation is there, definitely don`t want to get it ruined. At 165cms and 85 Kgs I got the Medium King and fits like a glove. Pretty unrestriciting considering the construction. Seals are not too tight. Easy zip in and out (yet to try the pee zip)


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Heads up Soul owners. If you’re dealing with any funk issues, rinse your suit, and try this cleaning product. It won’t void your warranty, and it’s safe for use with the Soul’s polytex seals.
http://www.mcnett.com/MiraZyme-Enzyme-Based-Odor-Eliminator-P398.aspx


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Here’s a really fair review of the SOUL Drysuit from a top rider in Norway, Cato.  His thoughts are pretty bang on and his photos are insane.

http://catothekiter.com/2012/11/03/review-ocean-rodeo-soul-drysuite/


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I used the MiraZyme product and it totally took care of the funk… kisses from the wife after my session without a frown! the suit needs a good rinse every time you use it inside and out… but its truly been like night and day put against a wet suit.


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Used ‘Seal Saver’ for the first time and it sure makes the seals slide so much easier around the heels, wrists and neck! make the purchase and apply often to preserve your latex and prevent having to replace! also a reminder to apply the TiZip lubricant to the zippers periodically!!

put the Soul to use!


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How safe or compatible are sunscreens with the Soul’s polytex seals?  Are there any brands that are known to be OK?  Are there any brands, or specific listed ingredients to avoid?

I just purchased the Soul drysuit today.  There were several suits in the store returned for repair of the seals, and I notice repair questions are common.  I want to avoid damaging the seals.

Just wondering what are people’s experience are with sunscreens, good or bad


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Found my own answer to how to wear a pfd with the Soul or NPX Lucifers. You wear it inside the suit. Lots of room very comfee and the marine police are happy. Only problem is the pfd acts like a layer of clothes and you sweat under it. But for me thats much better than being too cold.


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This page is too sweet! Its not too flashy.  I mean it. Besides the post just being awesome.