RISE KITE Collapsing Wing Tips? - Early Modlel Rise Kites

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In some limmitted circumstances (high winds, heavy riders or overly agressive riders) some people have had their early model Rise kite suffer from collapsing wing tips. This has happened to only a handfull of kites, so if you have not experienced this problem, don’t worry!

If you have had this issue you are welcome to contact us for an easily applied fix. However, if you are anxious you can also make your own, here’s how:

You’ll need to make the extensions, click on the image below to open a print compatible image:

Then you’ll need to install them! Click below for a print compatible image.

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he john
i had some problems with the tips
i had problems in gusty wind,s her in holland
i told wouter, and the mod kit is on its way good job.

is ther a setting on the rise to bring down the bar pressure
or wil this mod kit do the job.

greetz barry

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Because the “Pulley Line” (H Line) is slightly shorter than it should be it pulls the rear lines forward. This pull adds bar pressure as it requires that you fight this pull in order to keep the rear lines straight. This mod will address this feeling as well as the slight lag in initial turning responce.

Please note! This issue only affects a small number of the initial Rise kites produced. If you have an issue contact us and we will sort you out. All kites shipping as of May will have had these issues addressed.


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thanks john my rise 12 is from the early days in may so the mod kit will do the job.
i had the feeling the kite was in the beginners setting compared to my 8 rise
i will let you know if this gets better with the mod kit
greetz barry

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I guess I must be one of the few, I just got my 12m Rise out 2 sessions with it the wing tips are collapsing on me on either turning settings so I’ll wait for the bridal mod and I also noted that the bar pressure is huge hope the mod will lighten things up a bit I’m a big guy.  Funny that the kite came late June and still had the problem must have been at the bottom of the pile.

Jason

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PLEASE make sure you have your kite pumped up drum tight - this will help solve your problem as well the mod will also help with this problem.


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Hey Jason,

I had my RISE out this weekend, and I never had any problems with wingtips collapsing, until late in the session when I discovered my deflate valve had almost come out and was slowly leaking air. Mine was one of the first 75 kites produced.

I’m still waiting to hear back from the OR crew about the bridle mod. I’ll have them ship to you directly.

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I’ve been pumping it rock hard so I’ll wait for the mod, if it don’t work maybe I can trade for that 2007 One you have posted I still enjoy the 12m One.  Talk to you later.

Jason

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Jason,

We will have a mod kit sent to Terry at Fundy kites immediatly. I am sorry you have experienced this issue.

In the mean time you can try this:

- Move the rear bridle attachment to the forward setting. Do not move the pulley attachment as well. By moving only the rear attachment you will reduce the inward pull on the 2 points and should help prevent this issue.

Once the bridle mod is there set the back attachment back to the way the kite shipped to you.

Finally, if you continue to have problems after the mod has been installed please contact us as we want to make sure you are happy!

John Z


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Hi John, I posted this in the Kite Chat forum as well, thanks for responding:

Riding my 12M Rise yesterday in 15-22 mph (18 average), I was able to consistently “distort” the tip(s) by pulling hard on the steering line. John, do I need the bridal mod or maybe a bit more pressure in the bladder(s)?  I thought I pumped it up to “usual” firmness but I was in a bit of a hurry.

I received my kite about a week before Memorial Day (end of May), not sure if this is one of the “early” kites that needs the bridal mod or not.

I am one of the “heavy” guys at 225 lbs..

Great session on the kite, btw! Really love the Rise more and more everytime I ride it, I love cranking the kite around and following it with a heelside or toeside carve!


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[quote author=“Anonymous”]PLEASE make sure you have your kite pumped up drum tight - this will help solve your problem as well the mod will also help with this problem.

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Thanks Mossman, for your response.. What I meant by “thanks for responding” in my original message was “thanks in advance for responding” and was directed to JohnZ.  I was hoping he would tell me whether I need the bridal mod or not.


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Hey John have you fwd. the bridal mod to Fundy kiteboarding yet, I’m still waiting for it, thks.

Jason

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Hey Jason,

  What size Rise do you have? I’ll send out the mod kit as soon as I hear back from you.

  Cheers,


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Its for a 12m RISE, I thought it was sent out already.

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Dido from Fundy Kiteboarding I expected the mod already the kite wings are still folding on themselve even on the slow turning setting so can be shipped to:

Jason DOUCET
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Dieppe, NB
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The sooner the better it’s been over a week since John Z said he was going to ship me one, hope it works.

Jason

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What’s up Ocean Rodeo, I’ve not received my Bridal Mod yet, Fundy Kiteboarding was assured it was going to arrive on Wednesday of last week, it’s for the 12m rise it’s going on three weeks John Z indicated that one was going to be shipped immediately on July 16, I can’t use the kite without the mod as the wing tips continue to collapse no matter what setting I have it on, I’ve got a brand new kite I can’t use.


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I’ve been advise by Fundy kiteboarding that the mod has arrived I’m praying it works, I’ll keep you posted.

Jason

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raspberry Waiting patiently for the ‘top secret’ 2008 RISE mod.

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@fundykite: My ‘problem’ too. The strap of velcro that goes over the valve first when you secure it is a bit too long. I’ve shortened it so the velcro won’t give any chance to the deflate valve to open itself during the session. Haven’t had the chance to try it yet, but I think it will have solved the deflate issue which makes the kite do the wingtip thing and stall. I have one of the earliest Rises (I think) and as long as it’s pumped pretty hard I don’t have any problems with it. I love it!


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Jelte, perform the 08 bridle mod. It’s very easy to do and you will not have any problems with wing tip collapse. The kite’s performance is also far superior. Check out the thread for instructions and tips which allow you to get away without extra kook proof connectors and the stopper balls.

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Evan

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Hi Evan,

Thanx for the tip! I was very happy with my 07 setup. The 08 setup affects the depower range which is something I like very much and also people tell me it solves their problem of too much bar pressure, but my rise’s barpressure is next to non-existent. So I’m not sure the 08 setup is my thing.
But I might change my 12m for a 14m Rise Venturi, that looks very promising….  8)


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Hi Jelte,

I’m glad your are stoked on the kite, and if you like it the way it is than there is no need to change it. I do want to point out though that the 08 mod does not affect the amount of depower you will get out of the kite.

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Okay, I heard something different, but your information would probably be right!
Just to point out why depower is so important for me:
I was surfing with my 12 in quite a hard swell and a lot of current on the North Sea. Behind me was the surf guru of the island with his 16m. I started surfing this year. He has been kitesurfing for a long time. Not only was I able to keep up with him, I also went a bit more upwind, with 4m less kite!!
So naturally he was curious about the kite (he flies Raven 07 and an older Naish 16m) and at the end of the session he asked me if he could test it. Problem was that the wind had gone down and got a bit gusty. So when someone threw up the kite for him, the kite slowly flew backwards into the powerzone.
I heard him shout ‘Oh, shit!’, and I happily folded my arms to see what would happen, since I already knew what the kite would do. With an almost total lack of wind the kite in search for power flew all the way into the power zone and the kiter braced himself sharply. Then a gust of wind rocketed the kite straight up to twelve. Behind me I heard the kiter say ‘Oh’, but in a puzzled way as if he was contemplating what just happened. He hadn’t moved an inch and he just couldn’t understand. He never had this kind of depower before. 
Then he got on the water and made a few nice fluent backrolls.
He will probably never leave Naish kites, cause that’s the way he is. But he was surely intrigued by the Rise and I will give it to him again when the wind gets over 20 knots! See what he makes of it…


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